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		<title>By: justiceserved</title>
		<link>http://blog.justiceserved.com/?p=513#comment-7175</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 15:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm pleased you had a chance to weigh in, Mark, but like every argument that turns into an either/or choice, many nuances get left out of the debate. There appear to be few ambivalent feelings on the topic.

Does digital recording have a rightful place in capturing and preserving the court record? Absolutely !!  Does stenography? Absolutely !!

The trick is to determine the selection criteria and use the choice that is most appropriate to the needs of particular hearing types.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m pleased you had a chance to weigh in, Mark, but like every argument that turns into an either/or choice, many nuances get left out of the debate. There appear to be few ambivalent feelings on the topic.</p>
<p>Does digital recording have a rightful place in capturing and preserving the court record? Absolutely !!  Does stenography? Absolutely !!</p>
<p>The trick is to determine the selection criteria and use the choice that is most appropriate to the needs of particular hearing types.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Bilger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Bilger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 12:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've made it a habit to always read between the lines and it's clear to me that Chris Crawford had no intention of giving a balanced comparison of court reporting and digital reporting.  We've all heard of being "a wolf in sheep's clothing" and that's all this was.  Commenter Gregg caught Chris in every "old school" point that was hiding between the lines disguised as fair and balanced debate.

As an outsider to the court reporting field looking in, I've spent numerous hours per day for the last week researching the occupation of digital reporting on Google because I want to change careers when moving to Florida from Michigan.  I have specialized in professional audio equipment in the music field for the last 35 years.  I feel it is feasible for me to use that and my other writing/editing skills to earn a stable income for my family in something I could enjoy.  Anyway... I see identical similarities in this debate to other fields of endeavor where the "old school" types who aren't going to budge are eventually wiped out by new technology.  Some are:

1. Churches refusing to buy a digital piano because their pianist refuses to play one.  The church must either maintain a constant temperature and humidity in the sanctuary 24/7 or pay for manual tuning every couple months.  That costs about $750 a year or very high utility bills that are even worse.  Digital pianos never go out of tune because there are no strings.  Miking an acoustic piano is hell for the sound crew and 99% of miked acoustic pianos sound terrible while a digital piano plugs into the system for a superior 24-bit realistic "in your face" studio sound.  Who loses by sticking to the old technology?  Everybody but the player.  Acoustic pianos feel and sound heavenly in close proximity but today's churches require today's technology.  The snobby pianist is eventually ousted, or leaves in a huff, and is replaced by someone willing to embrace new technology.

2. Manual typewriters versus electric typewriters.  Then electric typewriters versus word processors.  Those of us who adapted are much more efficient, create better output, and have advantages like spell-check, grammar-check, instant changes with no White-Out strips or bottles, etc. that are vastly superior to banging on keys with a 1 1/2" travel or overly sensitive electric relay keys.  Those who refused to adapt eventually retired, or were ousted, to be replaced by those embracing new technology.

3. Vinyl records versus CDs.  Then CD versus various MP3 players.  Vinyl is almost non-existent today except with listeners who call themselves purists and for some sick reason enjoy popping, crackling, hiss, limited frequency response, and low dynamic range on a media that starts to deteriorate the first time you sit a needle on it.  Those who embrace new technology enjoy digital almost-studio-quality wherever they go with players smaller than a pack of cigarettes while those who refuse can only listen at home with a discontinued belt-driven turntable using hard-to-find needles and crappy heat-sensitive vinyl platters.

4. Beta and SuperBeta versus VHS, VHS-C, and S-VHS video tapes.  VHS versus small digital tape.  Digital recording onto digital tape.  Digital tape versus hard drive direct recording.  Digital tape versus CD or DVD direct recording.  Hard drive versus SD flash card.  Smaller, better, higher capacity, and refined.  Self explanatory.

5. Horse and buggy versus gas-powered engines.

6. Propeller planes versus jets.

7. Film-based still cameras versus digital.

8. Stove cooking everything versus microwave oven.

In every case new technology has a rough start and initially seems primitive but ends up taking over as it demonstrates advantages like improved efficiency, decreased cost, and better results.  The old technologies still exist but become a fallback, lesser used, and sometimes historical jokes of their industries.

Those of you who are currently court reporters are very talented hard workers, there's no doubt, and I know I couldn't do what you do.  But when one's income level climbs to a point where employers feel its excessive (as proven by U.S. auto laborers being replaced by robots and pre-assemblies being built overseas and imported), those who do the hiring start looking for alternatives to cut overhead.  Especially in economic times like we're having today.

Whether you like it or not (you can debate these things until you are 100 and will accomplish nothing), if a single digital reporter monitors a multi-track recording system for court or deposition with the mics set up properly - or two, or four courts for $35-50,000 a year, and records onto 5-cent CDs that are easily duplicated and stored, this is using new technology to reduce costs while maintaining a "good enough" output quality.  That's what employers want - good enough and less cost.  Eventually, as technology improves, output will be excellent and cost will be low.  That's what technology does best.

Digital reporting WILL improve and dominate because the technology is already available in music recording but just hasn't crossed over yet.  Multi-track reporting recorder decks are going by the wayside (Marantz has apparently stopped production), for example, and software capable of 24-bit (recording studio quality) on a laptop is taking over.  4-track systems will eventually move to 8-tracks.  8-tracks will eventually move to 16-track.  Equipment vendors will eventually begin using compressor-limiters to boost clarity and automatically control level on tracks.  This will help transcriptionists boost their output 10X with the help of already available speech-to-text software that gets better every year and requires very clear input to give acceptable output.

I'd predict, from studying historical examples such as those above, that the best thing for court reporters is to learn and add exceptional digital reporting skills to their abilities instead of mocking the technology and do both to remain in demand.  Then as old technology falls away you will be prepared to continue working instead of complaining that the legal world left you behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve made it a habit to always read between the lines and it&#8217;s clear to me that Chris Crawford had no intention of giving a balanced comparison of court reporting and digital reporting.  We&#8217;ve all heard of being &#8220;a wolf in sheep&#8217;s clothing&#8221; and that&#8217;s all this was.  Commenter Gregg caught Chris in every &#8220;old school&#8221; point that was hiding between the lines disguised as fair and balanced debate.</p>
<p>As an outsider to the court reporting field looking in, I&#8217;ve spent numerous hours per day for the last week researching the occupation of digital reporting on Google because I want to change careers when moving to Florida from Michigan.  I have specialized in professional audio equipment in the music field for the last 35 years.  I feel it is feasible for me to use that and my other writing/editing skills to earn a stable income for my family in something I could enjoy.  Anyway&#8230; I see identical similarities in this debate to other fields of endeavor where the &#8220;old school&#8221; types who aren&#8217;t going to budge are eventually wiped out by new technology.  Some are:</p>
<p>1. Churches refusing to buy a digital piano because their pianist refuses to play one.  The church must either maintain a constant temperature and humidity in the sanctuary 24/7 or pay for manual tuning every couple months.  That costs about $750 a year or very high utility bills that are even worse.  Digital pianos never go out of tune because there are no strings.  Miking an acoustic piano is hell for the sound crew and 99% of miked acoustic pianos sound terrible while a digital piano plugs into the system for a superior 24-bit realistic &#8220;in your face&#8221; studio sound.  Who loses by sticking to the old technology?  Everybody but the player.  Acoustic pianos feel and sound heavenly in close proximity but today&#8217;s churches require today&#8217;s technology.  The snobby pianist is eventually ousted, or leaves in a huff, and is replaced by someone willing to embrace new technology.</p>
<p>2. Manual typewriters versus electric typewriters.  Then electric typewriters versus word processors.  Those of us who adapted are much more efficient, create better output, and have advantages like spell-check, grammar-check, instant changes with no White-Out strips or bottles, etc. that are vastly superior to banging on keys with a 1 1/2&#8243; travel or overly sensitive electric relay keys.  Those who refused to adapt eventually retired, or were ousted, to be replaced by those embracing new technology.</p>
<p>3. Vinyl records versus CDs.  Then CD versus various MP3 players.  Vinyl is almost non-existent today except with listeners who call themselves purists and for some sick reason enjoy popping, crackling, hiss, limited frequency response, and low dynamic range on a media that starts to deteriorate the first time you sit a needle on it.  Those who embrace new technology enjoy digital almost-studio-quality wherever they go with players smaller than a pack of cigarettes while those who refuse can only listen at home with a discontinued belt-driven turntable using hard-to-find needles and crappy heat-sensitive vinyl platters.</p>
<p>4. Beta and SuperBeta versus VHS, VHS-C, and S-VHS video tapes.  VHS versus small digital tape.  Digital recording onto digital tape.  Digital tape versus hard drive direct recording.  Digital tape versus CD or DVD direct recording.  Hard drive versus SD flash card.  Smaller, better, higher capacity, and refined.  Self explanatory.</p>
<p>5. Horse and buggy versus gas-powered engines.</p>
<p>6. Propeller planes versus jets.</p>
<p>7. Film-based still cameras versus digital.</p>
<p>8. Stove cooking everything versus microwave oven.</p>
<p>In every case new technology has a rough start and initially seems primitive but ends up taking over as it demonstrates advantages like improved efficiency, decreased cost, and better results.  The old technologies still exist but become a fallback, lesser used, and sometimes historical jokes of their industries.</p>
<p>Those of you who are currently court reporters are very talented hard workers, there&#8217;s no doubt, and I know I couldn&#8217;t do what you do.  But when one&#8217;s income level climbs to a point where employers feel its excessive (as proven by U.S. auto laborers being replaced by robots and pre-assemblies being built overseas and imported), those who do the hiring start looking for alternatives to cut overhead.  Especially in economic times like we&#8217;re having today.</p>
<p>Whether you like it or not (you can debate these things until you are 100 and will accomplish nothing), if a single digital reporter monitors a multi-track recording system for court or deposition with the mics set up properly - or two, or four courts for $35-50,000 a year, and records onto 5-cent CDs that are easily duplicated and stored, this is using new technology to reduce costs while maintaining a &#8220;good enough&#8221; output quality.  That&#8217;s what employers want - good enough and less cost.  Eventually, as technology improves, output will be excellent and cost will be low.  That&#8217;s what technology does best.</p>
<p>Digital reporting WILL improve and dominate because the technology is already available in music recording but just hasn&#8217;t crossed over yet.  Multi-track reporting recorder decks are going by the wayside (Marantz has apparently stopped production), for example, and software capable of 24-bit (recording studio quality) on a laptop is taking over.  4-track systems will eventually move to 8-tracks.  8-tracks will eventually move to 16-track.  Equipment vendors will eventually begin using compressor-limiters to boost clarity and automatically control level on tracks.  This will help transcriptionists boost their output 10X with the help of already available speech-to-text software that gets better every year and requires very clear input to give acceptable output.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d predict, from studying historical examples such as those above, that the best thing for court reporters is to learn and add exceptional digital reporting skills to their abilities instead of mocking the technology and do both to remain in demand.  Then as old technology falls away you will be prepared to continue working instead of complaining that the legal world left you behind.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica L. Van Ostrand</title>
		<link>http://blog.justiceserved.com/?p=513#comment-7136</link>
		<dc:creator>Erica L. Van Ostrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also -- PS, i sort of laughed after i posted this, because at the beginning, i was going to write three lines.  Now look at it.  Sorry, LOL!  i totally bombed that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8212; PS, i sort of laughed after i posted this, because at the beginning, i was going to write three lines.  Now look at it.  Sorry, LOL!  i totally bombed that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Erica L. Van Ostrand</title>
		<link>http://blog.justiceserved.com/?p=513#comment-7135</link>
		<dc:creator>Erica L. Van Ostrand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 21:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve has it very right.  

However, even though there are exceptions, there is a serious lack of knowledge on this subject on the part of most court reporters, and i must say that includes you, Karen Geddes, and you, Chris Crawford, and you, Rosalie Kramm, and you, Candace.

I can't believe Steve actually took the time to write out all of that.  You're dealing with people who take one piece of anecdotal evidence and stretch it to apply to the whole basket.  Those kinds of people will not listen to logic or reason.

I'm going to be honest with you.  My transcripts have about 1-2 errors, period, (this includes missing commas or anything at all whatsoever) every hundred pages or so; i don't know how many 9s would even go in that -- 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% error free?  I have no idea.

Not even many court reporters can keep up with that.  I'm pretty sure the generally accepted error rate for stenographers is something on the order of 95 to 98%, depending on the state/school/etc, which is pretty horrendous if you ask me.  I think i might have produced a transcript that error ridden on my very first try at transcribing.

If your electronic reporters don't speak up to ask what a witness is saying or to clarify something, that makes them a bad reporter; that's what causes inaudibles.  it certainly doesn't make electronic reporters categorically bad.  If you want to argue about that one particular point, or say that it's rude to interrupt, then i would say you aren't really looking to take down an accurate record, steno or otherwise.


Of course, that's not to say that traditional stenographers don't have a place.  It's just changing, and the hard fact is, if you aren't willing to change, everyone is going to leave you in the dust.

I'm going to go back to what Steve said.  Is it really so much of a loss when he switches positions from going to court every day of the week or to some law office in the same city every week, to deciding, "Hey, i think i want to go to France today," and still being able to do his job?  Honestly, you'd have to be nuts to disagree with that, lol!! 

I know plenty of court reporters who are starving for work and can't even pay their mortgages, yet are refusing to do simple things like even transcribe with their steno machine (which they could probably play the audio at faster than 100% and still get it, i mean the hourly rate would still be real good).  i have a dictionary that i work on just like stenographers, and that is where my dollar signs are.  The faster i get, the more money i make in an hour.  i have worked hard at developing my FastFox dictionary and i'm pretty proud of it.

i work real hard for my money and i make good money, too.  It's very disturbing how many times i read on depoman and other places, how many stenographers dehumanize transcribers and electronic reporters, like we're just brainless people that have no idea what's going on ever.  Stenographic &#38; electronic reporters, as well as transcribers, are people too, just trying to pay the bills and make a living.  Most stenographers act like i don't do anything, like i don't work 18 hours a day (which i do, 5 days a week + 12 on the 6th).

Such a prima donna attitude is just really disrespectful to your entire, noble stenographic profession, not to mention completely unprofessional.  But the most unfortunate part that makes me sad for you is that if you don't change your attitude, you will just get left behind instead of reaping the rewards that come with change (i.e. working on a beach in Italy).

Anyways, in about two months, i will be doing exactly what Steve talked about doing in Italy, and i'll still be able to make six figures, with no kids.  And i'm just a solo transcriber who works a lot.  So i'm sorry you aren't willing to pick up that opportunity and run with it, because the only person who loses out in that situation is you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve has it very right.  </p>
<p>However, even though there are exceptions, there is a serious lack of knowledge on this subject on the part of most court reporters, and i must say that includes you, Karen Geddes, and you, Chris Crawford, and you, Rosalie Kramm, and you, Candace.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe Steve actually took the time to write out all of that.  You&#8217;re dealing with people who take one piece of anecdotal evidence and stretch it to apply to the whole basket.  Those kinds of people will not listen to logic or reason.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to be honest with you.  My transcripts have about 1-2 errors, period, (this includes missing commas or anything at all whatsoever) every hundred pages or so; i don&#8217;t know how many 9s would even go in that &#8212; 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999% error free?  I have no idea.</p>
<p>Not even many court reporters can keep up with that.  I&#8217;m pretty sure the generally accepted error rate for stenographers is something on the order of 95 to 98%, depending on the state/school/etc, which is pretty horrendous if you ask me.  I think i might have produced a transcript that error ridden on my very first try at transcribing.</p>
<p>If your electronic reporters don&#8217;t speak up to ask what a witness is saying or to clarify something, that makes them a bad reporter; that&#8217;s what causes inaudibles.  it certainly doesn&#8217;t make electronic reporters categorically bad.  If you want to argue about that one particular point, or say that it&#8217;s rude to interrupt, then i would say you aren&#8217;t really looking to take down an accurate record, steno or otherwise.</p>
<p>Of course, that&#8217;s not to say that traditional stenographers don&#8217;t have a place.  It&#8217;s just changing, and the hard fact is, if you aren&#8217;t willing to change, everyone is going to leave you in the dust.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to go back to what Steve said.  Is it really so much of a loss when he switches positions from going to court every day of the week or to some law office in the same city every week, to deciding, &#8220;Hey, i think i want to go to France today,&#8221; and still being able to do his job?  Honestly, you&#8217;d have to be nuts to disagree with that, lol!! </p>
<p>I know plenty of court reporters who are starving for work and can&#8217;t even pay their mortgages, yet are refusing to do simple things like even transcribe with their steno machine (which they could probably play the audio at faster than 100% and still get it, i mean the hourly rate would still be real good).  i have a dictionary that i work on just like stenographers, and that is where my dollar signs are.  The faster i get, the more money i make in an hour.  i have worked hard at developing my FastFox dictionary and i&#8217;m pretty proud of it.</p>
<p>i work real hard for my money and i make good money, too.  It&#8217;s very disturbing how many times i read on depoman and other places, how many stenographers dehumanize transcribers and electronic reporters, like we&#8217;re just brainless people that have no idea what&#8217;s going on ever.  Stenographic &amp; electronic reporters, as well as transcribers, are people too, just trying to pay the bills and make a living.  Most stenographers act like i don&#8217;t do anything, like i don&#8217;t work 18 hours a day (which i do, 5 days a week + 12 on the 6th).</p>
<p>Such a prima donna attitude is just really disrespectful to your entire, noble stenographic profession, not to mention completely unprofessional.  But the most unfortunate part that makes me sad for you is that if you don&#8217;t change your attitude, you will just get left behind instead of reaping the rewards that come with change (i.e. working on a beach in Italy).</p>
<p>Anyways, in about two months, i will be doing exactly what Steve talked about doing in Italy, and i&#8217;ll still be able to make six figures, with no kids.  And i&#8217;m just a solo transcriber who works a lot.  So i&#8217;m sorry you aren&#8217;t willing to pick up that opportunity and run with it, because the only person who loses out in that situation is you.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Geddes</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you were involved in a lawsuit that could possibly change your life forever, what would be your choice in making sure every point you made was correctly transcribed:  a recorder (machine) or a court reporter (human being)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you were involved in a lawsuit that could possibly change your life forever, what would be your choice in making sure every point you made was correctly transcribed:  a recorder (machine) or a court reporter (human being)?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the comment, Rosalie  ...  I agree that there is more to this that first meets the eye. There has to be an affirmative understanding that there will be a loss of quality with an ER transcript, and this quality drops drastically when there is no ER monitor present to do equipment checks, intervene if sound quality drops and annotate the record.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comment, Rosalie  &#8230;  I agree that there is more to this that first meets the eye. There has to be an affirmative understanding that there will be a loss of quality with an ER transcript, and this quality drops drastically when there is no ER monitor present to do equipment checks, intervene if sound quality drops and annotate the record.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosalie Kramm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rosalie Kramm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 01:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg,

As a business person who owns a court reporeting company and having been asked to transcribe the tapes that come from courtrooms with ER, I can assureyou the transcript quality is not as good as if there were a live reporter present using stenography to create the record.  There are so many instances of blips in the recording, non-identified speakers,  people shuffling paperworkon the microphones, and a myriad of other things that it takes sometimes three or four times longer to transcribe from a recording.  This will never equal cost savings for the court system, nor will it provide an acurrate transcript.  Students, stay in stenotypy school.  There is a future for you, and we need you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg,</p>
<p>As a business person who owns a court reporeting company and having been asked to transcribe the tapes that come from courtrooms with ER, I can assureyou the transcript quality is not as good as if there were a live reporter present using stenography to create the record.  There are so many instances of blips in the recording, non-identified speakers,  people shuffling paperworkon the microphones, and a myriad of other things that it takes sometimes three or four times longer to transcribe from a recording.  This will never equal cost savings for the court system, nor will it provide an acurrate transcript.  Students, stay in stenotypy school.  There is a future for you, and we need you.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 14:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, all, Steve. In my view, the court reporting profession needs to reinvent itself to add such value to their product as to become indispensable. Technology is key, as is revisiting what a transcript is. Thanks for your thoughful comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, all, Steve. In my view, the court reporting profession needs to reinvent itself to add such value to their product as to become indispensable. Technology is key, as is revisiting what a transcript is. Thanks for your thoughful comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Hubbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Hubbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thought.  Guess whose fault it is for allowing audio into the courtrooms of America and Canada?  Every steno reporter who loved reporting in the courtroom.  How so?  By not volunteering our time to mentor others taking up the steno machine.  By our selfish attitude in not making sure our local and state and national associations took up the cause a long long time ago to inspire young minds and fast fingers to take up our profession.  True enough most of us didn't have the time.  We have husbands, wives, children to take care of when we get home.  That was and is our first priority and while we did those things we forgot to take 30 minutes a month to write and talk to our association leaders, "Hey, what are we going to do for damage control when the hurricane hits?"  Did we lobby back in the 1960s and 1970s Congress and State Legislatures for funding to keep court reporting schools going and help out as mentors to give testimony to new entrants onto the stage of an exciting career?  Some did for sure.  But some is far too few and now far too late to turn back the clock.  No, the courts and court administrators don't hate us.  They see what's happening.  Court reporting schools are closing.  Some programs are taking far too long to graduate students.  When we baby boomers retire, and we are, those of us who are 60 and more, take a look at that bell curve.  Court administrators and chief judges understand far too well the gravity of the situation and they - unlike us court reporters - are only protecting the best interests of society as a whole - they have to do what they got to do - and for some of you in-court court reporters - it's not going to be pretty.   In the meantime, I predict a big opportunity for us remote CART reporters - start making friends with high priced defense lawyers in criminal cases - start letting those civil lawyers who always ordered daily copy their civil trials - let them know they can still have realtime and daily - and if I ever get my way, I would rather be in Italy all year long enjoying the Italian coastline but dialing into a speaker phone system at some Utah, Alaska, Iowa, Florida, providing realtime transcription and this was all made possible because a lot of us did not care what was happening in the 1960s and since as I have heretofore described.   Comments anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thought.  Guess whose fault it is for allowing audio into the courtrooms of America and Canada?  Every steno reporter who loved reporting in the courtroom.  How so?  By not volunteering our time to mentor others taking up the steno machine.  By our selfish attitude in not making sure our local and state and national associations took up the cause a long long time ago to inspire young minds and fast fingers to take up our profession.  True enough most of us didn&#8217;t have the time.  We have husbands, wives, children to take care of when we get home.  That was and is our first priority and while we did those things we forgot to take 30 minutes a month to write and talk to our association leaders, &#8220;Hey, what are we going to do for damage control when the hurricane hits?&#8221;  Did we lobby back in the 1960s and 1970s Congress and State Legislatures for funding to keep court reporting schools going and help out as mentors to give testimony to new entrants onto the stage of an exciting career?  Some did for sure.  But some is far too few and now far too late to turn back the clock.  No, the courts and court administrators don&#8217;t hate us.  They see what&#8217;s happening.  Court reporting schools are closing.  Some programs are taking far too long to graduate students.  When we baby boomers retire, and we are, those of us who are 60 and more, take a look at that bell curve.  Court administrators and chief judges understand far too well the gravity of the situation and they - unlike us court reporters - are only protecting the best interests of society as a whole - they have to do what they got to do - and for some of you in-court court reporters - it&#8217;s not going to be pretty.   In the meantime, I predict a big opportunity for us remote CART reporters - start making friends with high priced defense lawyers in criminal cases - start letting those civil lawyers who always ordered daily copy their civil trials - let them know they can still have realtime and daily - and if I ever get my way, I would rather be in Italy all year long enjoying the Italian coastline but dialing into a speaker phone system at some Utah, Alaska, Iowa, Florida, providing realtime transcription and this was all made possible because a lot of us did not care what was happening in the 1960s and since as I have heretofore described.   Comments anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Hubbard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Hubbard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Apr 2010 01:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who knows what the AG in Ontario is ultimately going to do with its 500 plus court reporters.  This is a time in history where we steno court reporters can no longer think that we are God's only gift to the courtroom.  Go back to the 1940's, pen writers were telling their judges that steno reporters (with their then noisy machines) would be distracting and whispered more unkind comments about the stenos.  Guess what?  They disappeared.  Will voice-writers capable of doing realtime in two or more languages - if they are more than just unilingual - quickly replace the stenos - when the hardware and software permit it?  You're darn right.  And guess what?  We court reporters who run businesses like Kim are thinking about that right now - otherwise - guess what - just like the airline business - losing millions in business every year because of simple Skype to SKype videoconferencing technology - that's free - technology that the Judicial Conference is constantly revising Rule 30 in taking depositions - allowing lawyers to take depos by remote - even suggesting in the rule that a party need not have to use a steno reporter - but simply use a tape recorder or video - So what does this all mean?  Competition.  Competition.  Competition.  We have to stay vigilant and know who our competition is and redesign our mousetrap to keep the business - both in terms of hardware - and prices - As far as I am concerned all those states in the United States that went just digital, that is an opportunity for we realtime writers.  I would just as soon lobby the local criminal bars and say, "When you need a realtime writer in that courtroom and you have a client who is willing to pay for a realtime record, call on us.  I am also a CART reporter.  I would just as soon tell a digital courtroom judge's court administrator, "You keep your audio system as the official record.  Let me dial into the courtroom's speaker phone system and I will hear the proceedings with your digital mics and speakers patched into that speaker phone system, I will give the judge and the lawyers realtime via the Internet directly into their iPhones, BlackBerries and standard PCs and during the day update a cleaned up file at no additional charge that will have time stamping in the margin to coincide with the court's audio CD, and all I want is $150 per hour for my time, and that fee can be split between or amongst the parties.  Then the contractor who has the duty to type appeals, guess what, I will give them my almost near perfect record so they can, if there is an appeal, start proofing my work against the court's official record audio CD!  So give me a heaving duty trial that goes for a few days, let me make $800 or more a day just writing.  Guess what?  No transcript to do.  I have a life!  So, bring it on!  Let the courts keep their digital audio system as the official record.  I don't have a problem with that.  For sure, anybody who still does it the "old fashion way" they are doomed.  We have to, we must, we have no choice, keep changing and adapting.  We are here to serve the best interests of society as a whole.  We are not entitled to a job delivered to us on a silver platter and think that we are there forever without forces beyond our control affecting our jobs, the very essence of how we perform our work.  Silicon Valley will make sure of that.  If you cannot take the heat in the kitchen, it's time to move out and take up another profession or vocation.   So if you are like me, and you want to SAVE court reporting as it is changing its essence in the 21st century, then think real hard about where you want to be in five years in your business if you are a freelancer like I am.  You can behave like an oak tree, ever so tall and sturdy or you can be a blade of grass.   But when a hurricane comes (technology) guess who is left standing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who knows what the AG in Ontario is ultimately going to do with its 500 plus court reporters.  This is a time in history where we steno court reporters can no longer think that we are God&#8217;s only gift to the courtroom.  Go back to the 1940&#8217;s, pen writers were telling their judges that steno reporters (with their then noisy machines) would be distracting and whispered more unkind comments about the stenos.  Guess what?  They disappeared.  Will voice-writers capable of doing realtime in two or more languages - if they are more than just unilingual - quickly replace the stenos - when the hardware and software permit it?  You&#8217;re darn right.  And guess what?  We court reporters who run businesses like Kim are thinking about that right now - otherwise - guess what - just like the airline business - losing millions in business every year because of simple Skype to SKype videoconferencing technology - that&#8217;s free - technology that the Judicial Conference is constantly revising Rule 30 in taking depositions - allowing lawyers to take depos by remote - even suggesting in the rule that a party need not have to use a steno reporter - but simply use a tape recorder or video - So what does this all mean?  Competition.  Competition.  Competition.  We have to stay vigilant and know who our competition is and redesign our mousetrap to keep the business - both in terms of hardware - and prices - As far as I am concerned all those states in the United States that went just digital, that is an opportunity for we realtime writers.  I would just as soon lobby the local criminal bars and say, &#8220;When you need a realtime writer in that courtroom and you have a client who is willing to pay for a realtime record, call on us.  I am also a CART reporter.  I would just as soon tell a digital courtroom judge&#8217;s court administrator, &#8220;You keep your audio system as the official record.  Let me dial into the courtroom&#8217;s speaker phone system and I will hear the proceedings with your digital mics and speakers patched into that speaker phone system, I will give the judge and the lawyers realtime via the Internet directly into their iPhones, BlackBerries and standard PCs and during the day update a cleaned up file at no additional charge that will have time stamping in the margin to coincide with the court&#8217;s audio CD, and all I want is $150 per hour for my time, and that fee can be split between or amongst the parties.  Then the contractor who has the duty to type appeals, guess what, I will give them my almost near perfect record so they can, if there is an appeal, start proofing my work against the court&#8217;s official record audio CD!  So give me a heaving duty trial that goes for a few days, let me make $800 or more a day just writing.  Guess what?  No transcript to do.  I have a life!  So, bring it on!  Let the courts keep their digital audio system as the official record.  I don&#8217;t have a problem with that.  For sure, anybody who still does it the &#8220;old fashion way&#8221; they are doomed.  We have to, we must, we have no choice, keep changing and adapting.  We are here to serve the best interests of society as a whole.  We are not entitled to a job delivered to us on a silver platter and think that we are there forever without forces beyond our control affecting our jobs, the very essence of how we perform our work.  Silicon Valley will make sure of that.  If you cannot take the heat in the kitchen, it&#8217;s time to move out and take up another profession or vocation.   So if you are like me, and you want to SAVE court reporting as it is changing its essence in the 21st century, then think real hard about where you want to be in five years in your business if you are a freelancer like I am.  You can behave like an oak tree, ever so tall and sturdy or you can be a blade of grass.   But when a hurricane comes (technology) guess who is left standing?</p>
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